like THIS IS THE GOAL OF THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT. it is’t about ~saving babies~ it’s about controlling every fucking aspect about a woman’s body and life
and if you refuse to see that, you’re backing the movement that is more invested in giving rights to…
I would just like to say that for the most part I am pro life because of the babies that are “botched abortions” if they get rid of being allowed to kill those babies after they are already born, then I would be completely pro choice because shit happens I know that and even worse, bad shit happens to woman with rape, incest, and having their lives in danger if they have the baby. I would never judge you if you got an abortion. But like I said, I can’t handle the thought of live babies being put in a dark closet, without a blanket…. to die in their first few moments of life. I just can’t.(I WOULD LIKE TO ONCE AGAIN POINT OUT, THAT ABORTIONS SHOULD BE LEGAL. BOTCHED ABORTIONS SHOULD NOT. THAT’S MY WHOLE POINT. My name has nothing to do with it and the stupidity of the person who tried to make a joke out of this because of the name just baffles me. Rape isn’t funny, incest isn’t funny, and there is not place for that crap in a serious conversation. Seriously grow up.)
Also the video on this site. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/04/15/wh_no_comment_on_protecting_babies_born_after_botched_abortions.html
Also, I knew someone who used to work in an abortion clinic, she quit because she was REQUIRED to put the babies in the closet and not go near them again until their death.
(hopefully this worked this time)
It worked, but probably not quite like how you were expecting.
- First of all, “real clear politics” is a conservative-leaning news source. It doesn’t take much research to figure that out. And… absolutely nothing in that first link provides any sort of solid evidence that “botched abortions” are supported and approved by the pro-choice movement? In fact my favourite line was “You’re asking for hypotheticals about legislation or proposed legislation that I haven’t seen, so it’s hard for me to comment on it.” I mean, what the fuck is the point of that first link in the first place? It’s a bunch of politicians taking about hypothetical situations. I think the bill in question was HB 1129 and yeah, Planned Parenthood was against that, because of the clause that said if a baby were born in these bizarre circumstances then the rights of parenthood would be stripped from the mother. It’s such a vague, weird piece of legislation that people criticizing it are absolutely in their rights to do so.
- Your second link is fucking laughable right off the bat. The ACLJ? Friend, that was founded by Pat-fucking-Robertson. You know, the dude that blamed the people of Haiti for the devastating earthquake? The guy who blamed 9/11 on “the feminists, the abortionists, the gays, and the lesbians”? You’re seriously expecting me to take that source seriously? The dude is a fucking hate-mongering bigot. BESIDES, that entire fiasco has been debunked so many times it’s actually painful to see you buying into it. Here’s what ThinkProgress had to say on the matter in their article ”How The Right Wing Manufactured A Fake Controversy Over Planned Parenthood’s ‘Infanticide’” (I would provide a link but unfortunately tumblr’s new reblog system is weird and stressful so look it up if you’d like)
Aside from the fact that Planned Parenthood was essentially backed into a corner by Florida Republicans — forced to testify against an unnecessary provision within a misleading piece of legislation, and then forced to respond to an imaginary “botched abortion” procedure that’s already against the law in the state — the organization’s position on caring for infants is already quite clear. Planned Parenthood has a long historyof providing professional medical care to women and their children. Abortion opponents often attempt to misconstrue Planned Parenthood as an irresponsible organization that doesn’t adhere to medical standards, but its clinics already provide high-quality primary care and preventative services to millions of people across the country.
The organization responded to the manufactured controversy to clarify this point. “As a trusted health care provider, Planned Parenthood strongly condemns any physician who does not follow the law or endangers a woman’s or child’s health,” aPlanned Parenthood representative testifiedbefore the Florida House Health & Human Services Committee on Thursday. “And while HB 1129 addresses a situation that is extremely unlikely and highly unusual, if the scenario presented by the legislation should happen, of course a Planned Parenthood doctor would provide appropriate care to both the woman and the infant.”
Perhaps the ultimate irony of the right-wing’s imagined controversy is that — even in states where it’s not against the law to perform late-term induced abortions — Planned Parenthood clinics don’t provide that type of service. Many Planned Parenthood affiliates only perform abortions in the first trimester of pregnancy, when women can eithertake a pillor have a less-invasive surgical procedure. It’s actually the women whodon’thave access to Planned Parenthood clinics, which areunder attack across the countryas GOP-controlled legislatures do their best to shut them down, who are forced to resort todangerous, illegal, late-term abortion serviceslike the ones described at the Florida hearing.
“Botched abortions” ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY PLANNED PARENTHOOD, ABORTION PROVIDERS, OR PRO-CHOICE INDIVIDUALS.
- Your final source is from LifeNews. Life. News. It has “life” in the title. It is a pro-life, hateful, fear-mongering website, and the link you used is yet again trying to make it out that Planned Parenthood is totally for killing babies after they’ve been born—and that’s been debunked here numerous times so I’m not even going to get into it.
You are literally buying into anti-choice propaganda that has been spreading these smear-campaigns across the country in hopes to dupe people like yourself who take what’s being said at face value without ever doing your own research. Please, from now on, when you find a story, check the source and for the love of god read up on what’s ACTUALLY happening outside of what these republican think-tanks are jerking off to.
“Botched abortions” and “partial birth abortions” are devices used by the anti-choice movement to push their fearmongering agenda. Even in events where terrible, TERRIBLE things happen (because yeah, they do) that doesn’t mean that the pro-choice movement as a whole supports them. Because we don’t. And we’re loud about calling out the bullshit that happens.
Plus, late-term abortions—the ones that would potentially (maybe) result in the cases you are citing—are for the most part either illegal or incredibly difficult to obtain. Meaning that the likelihood of these instances being prevalent or even occurring is.. well, slim to none. If you’re TRULY concerned about “botched abortions,” throw your support behind the pro-choice movement, because we’re the ones preventing these. Women who cannot get the abortion services they so desperately need and deserve often resort to extreme measures that could, potentially, end in a “botched abortion” type scenario—but this is because she was forced to wait, can no longer get her abortion legally, and is at her wit’s end. You stop “botched abortions” by being pro-choice, NOT by buying into right-wing conservative anti-choice propaganda!
Pro-Choice never wants a person to have to resort to a dangerous, illegal, unsanitary abortion. Pro-choice is Anti-Botched-Abortion—as every fucking person should be.
But Pro-life is about intimidation, fear, misinformation, and it is about men controlling women. (or anyone who can become pregnant)